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Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Toward the City (progressing the conversation)

This is a few words about what I think the most important point on which to progress the Carnap/Grice conversation on its way toward the City of Eternal Truth.

There is the proposition thing, which I raised on the Grice Club, possibly at a bad moment to get a response.

I shalln't press that one here.

The other main area of apparent discord and hence possible progress is the Griceian Bete's.
We have, in "the conversation" (PDF), an account by Speranza of what these Bete's are, but if a conciliation is sought between Grice and the beastly aspects of Carnap, the detail will be important.  Important, for example, to check out my hunch that Grice's opposition is to radical or dogmatic beastlyness, rather than moderate and pragmatic minimalisations.

To this end it would be nice to know the detail (if there is any) about what Grice said about the Bete's.

This seems to me rather more difficult than progressing Grice's attitude towards the proposition.  For in that latter case, I have plenty on "meaning", even "central meaning" in WOW, which can be assessed in relation to the notion of proposition (construed as a semantic entity) even if Grice didn't like that word.
But I am less aware of his having written about the Bete's and even if detailed textual references might not be forthcoming, any pointers would be of interest.

Roger Jones