The Carnap Idiom, The Grice Idiom -- Look For A Neutral One

--- by JLS, of the Grice Club

---- WON'T SAY a 'common one', because a common idiom may not ring the right sort of bell.

But when discussing what Grice calls the 'longitudinal unity of philosophy', Grice notes that one obstacle in its perception is the dating of 'idioms'. Some idioms date: they become old-fashioned. New ones are fangled, and so on ad infinitum.

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The idea occurred to me, after the heroic attempts by Jones in "Grice Club" to turn to some Carnapian 'common' lingua franca the latest Gricean novelties.

Jones proposed:

----- for 'meaning', qua noun. As when we say, "The meaning of this". What is this? What is 'meaning' for Carnap? What was meaning for Grice?

When it comes to Carnap one has to give a lot of credit to his mother tongue. Or something.

Strawson/Stroud's bio of Grice -- Carnap's bio of Carnap

Speranza

Enters Dummett

Speranza

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Dummett has described metaphysics

Perspectives on Carnap and Grice

Speranza

“Perspectives on Carnap” A one day workshop
University of East Anglia (Norwich, UK)
10th June 2013 (10am-1pm / 2pm-3:30pm) - Room Arts 3.03

S P E A K E R S:

FIRST LECTURE:

KAMMER QUENTIN (University of Bordeaux 3 – SPH)

"Goodman’s Reading of the Aufbau"

---- Interesting. I wish we could present something on Grice's Reading of the Aufbau!
Goodman is a fascinating philosopher.

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SECOND LECTURE:

KUUSELA OSKARI (University of East Anglia)
Resolving the Dispute between Ideal and Ordinary Language Approaches

----- This is fascinating. Indeed, one should trace who the first philosopher was who made the distinction. I THINK it was Cicero! (I once came across something like the Latin expression for "ordinary language" in his writings!). In fact, if there is ONE feature that distinguishes Carnap and Grice is this.



THIRD LECTURE:

WAGNER HENRI (University of Bordeaux 3 – SPH)
Quine on Carnap’s Conception of Logic
----- This is of course one of R. B. Jones's interests, as he seems fascinated, as Grice and myself are, with the personality of this Harvard professor of logic: Quine. I'm PRETTY sure that P. F. Strawson's motivation for HIS conception of logic is best understood as an answer to Quine in "Methods of Logic" (vide Strawson, "Intro" to "Philosophy of Logic", Oxford readings in Philosophy). And we know Grice's conception is a reply to Strawson!

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Co-organized by the Universities of East Anglia and Bordeaux 3 - SPH:
Kuusela Oskari (UEA)
Uçan Timur (UEA – University of Bordeaux 3)



THE “PERSPECTIVES ON CARNAP” A ONE DAY WORKSHOP WILL BE FOLLOWED ON JUNE 11th BY A ONE DAY WORKSHOP “WITTGENSTEIN/PHENOMENOLOGY”.

Grice and Carnap, Carnap and Grice

Speranza

We should explore.


“Perspectives on Carnap” A one day workshop



University of East Anglia (Norwich, UK)
10th June 2013 (10am-1pm / 2pm-3:30pm) - Room Arts 3.03


S P E A K E R S:

KAMMER QUENTIN (University of Bordeaux 3 – SPH)
Goodman’s Reading of the Aufbau

KUUSELA OSKARI (University of East Anglia)
Resolving the Dispute between Ideal and Ordinary Language Approaches

WAGNER HENRI (University of Bordeaux 3 – SPH)
Quine on Carnap’s Conception of Logic



Co-organized by the Universities of East Anglia and Bordeaux 3 - SPH:
Kuusela Oskari (UEA)
Uçan Timur (UEA – University of Bordeaux 3)



THE “PERSPECTIVES ON CARNAP” A ONE DAY WORKSHOP WILL BE FOLLOWED ON JUNE 11th BY A ONE DAY WORKSHOP “WITTGENSTEIN/PHENOMENOLOGY” (SEE ON PHILOS-L).